Anciients/Carrion Vael | Distorted Entertainment

Ever wonder what happens when metalheads and gaming geeks collide? You get a laugh-filled, headbanging episode of Distortion Entertainment with me, Ethan Carpenter, and my ever-entertaining co-pilot, Mitchell Wade. We forgot the clap sync, but who needs perfect timing when you've got a show bursting with the controversial sampling antics of Kanye West, musings over my ever coming 'skullet', and an impassioned debate about the shifting soundscapes of Indiana's Carrion Vael and Canada's Anciients.

Strap in as we tear apart the industry's latest metal music news and take a trip down memory lane with the return of All Shall Perish. We're also stirring the pot with some frank talk about the unexpected departure of band members and the ripple effect on groups like Insomnium. And for the gamers out there, we're diving headfirst into the latest gaming sagas, from my WWE game anticipation to the satirical splendor of Helldivers 2. Plus, we're not shying away from the Marvel universe—chewing over Hugh Jackman's return as Wolverine and the eyebrow-raising cast of the new Fantastic Four.

To cap off this auditory adventure, we're serving up a hefty dose of candor as we dissect a yet another questionable Loudwire Listicle. We're calling out the rankings and prepping our ears for the next episode: going over Aesop Rock's 'Garbology' and Abigail Williams' 'In The Shadow of A Thousand Suns', promising to deliver reviews you won't want to miss. It's a rollercoaster of discourse here, and you're invited to ride shotgun as we navigate the twists and turns of metal, gaming, and the ever-surprising world of podcasts.

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Speaker 1 0:19

Hello everybody and welcome to the Distortion Entertainment Podcast. My name is Ethan Carpenter. Of course, I'm joined by Mitchell.

Speaker 2 0:24

Wade, hey everybody, I was not ready for this opening.

Speaker 1 0:28

Yeah, I was also not ready, but my brain just decided to shoot for it.

Speaker 2 0:33

Did you not want to do the one, two, three, clap sync or anything like that?

Speaker 1 0:37

Oh, crap, we do need to do that. Uh, three, two, one. Cool, I'll sync that afterwards. And it was hey, everybody, we're professionals.

Speaker 2 0:50

We get paid to do this.

Speaker 1 0:52

We do not my brain was like panic, start the episode. I'm like, oh okay, brain, I mean I started already talking like the episode had already begun, because obviously there's a difference between my normal speaking voice and podcasting voice.

Speaker 2 1:06

There isn't. He is always in podcast mode, am I no, but it could have.

Speaker 1 1:14

I was about to say I know I have a different inflection when I podcast or do YouTube videos and things like that.

Speaker 2 1:20

Yeah, when you are in podcast mode, you're tired.

Speaker 1 1:24

I'm yeah, I'm always tired though that's my secret cap. I'm always tired. But yeah guys, welcome to the Start Entertainment Podcast. Sorry, I feel like I'm apologizing every episode for coming out with episodes late, but you know it's life. I picked up more video editing work, so it's being burnt out from that.

Speaker 2 1:49

Also, if you need him to do video editing work, hire him.

Speaker 1 1:52

Yeah, if anybody needs anymore, that's just what I need. I need more things to do with the little time that I have.

Speaker 2 1:59

Well, think about it.

Speaker 1 2:00

You could quit working for Fox, if you just I could, but then I would have to start paying attention to my own funds for like taxes and stuff.

Speaker 2 2:11

Oh, no responsibility. It's almost like you're 30 or something.

Speaker 1 2:15

I'm not 30. I'm 28.

Speaker 2 2:20

I will be 30 this year and I am not having any form of dread or existentialism because of it.

Speaker 1 2:30

I found a gray in my beard the other day.

Speaker 2 2:32

Oh, I've been getting gray hair since I was like 23.

Speaker 1 2:38

Yeah, it was just. It was right there with no shame. And I'm like it begins, but you're still not bald. But I'm not bald yet. I'm balding. My hairline is receding day by day, but I am not bald yet. I will rock the Devon Townsend skull it before I go bald. I feel I will do it.

Speaker 2 3:04

I feel like you should not only rock the skull it, but make them dreads too.

Speaker 1 3:10

I don't know if I can pull the dreads.

Speaker 2 3:11

I didn't say you can pull it.

Speaker 1 3:16

But I mean you should do it.

Speaker 2 3:17

Yeah, but can anyone pull the skull it? I don't even know if Devon pulled the skull it.

Speaker 1 3:23

Yeah, that's true, I don't. I don't really think he was able to pull it off, but he, he, he tried by God. But yeah, guys, welcome to Distorted Entertainment. Today we're going over a Karrion Vale album and a ancients record.

Speaker 2 3:41

An ancients with two eyes.

Speaker 1 3:42

An ancients with two eyes. Can't forget that. We'll be doing that after we talk a little bit about the news, starting with what do you think is the biggest one? Should we go, ozzy and Kanye? We should go, ozzy and Kanye, you want to, you want to field this one.

Speaker 2 3:58

So Kanye, everyone's favorite, definitely not super racist, a Nazi, still kind of a Nazi guy, who is also wearing a Bursam shirt, potentially, who knows? Because why wouldn't he? That's right, he did wear a Bursam shirt.

Speaker 1 4:16

Oh, yes, we get it. We get it. Kanye is an anti-Semite, we know. No, he he likes Jonah Hill, though. That's here's the thing, not to not to get on a tangent already. But so I know you don't like Fantano, but Fantano did a video. I don't.

Speaker 2 4:34

Hey, fantano, that much because I guess he was somewhat right about me being wrong about sleep or not sleep. Son, he's still wrong about OPEC. True, he is.

Speaker 1 4:49

He did a video about the new Kanye record and he called it unreviewable. And he basically just refused to review it because of Kanye being anti-Semitic and all these other things. And the thing is it's not even an instance of being able to separate the art from the artist, because the anti-Semitism in his music too it's like in the lyrics. So you can't even like separate it. And people in the comments were trying to pull a what? In another lyric he said he's hiring Jewish people, so how can he be racist towards Jewish people? And he brought and he basically fired back with a with a comment of that's the same argument as saying like I can't be racist, I have a black friend and you would not accept that argument if I made that argument. So why are you accepting that argument? Because Kanye is doing it.

Speaker 2 5:46

Well, not only let's be honest, it also hiring Jewish people to work for him. You know that's like a slave owner just being like look, I got black people working for me. I can't be racist. Sure, they aren't paid, but I give them housing question.

Speaker 1 6:07

But anyway, there, there, there was some beef with Ozzy and Kanye.

Speaker 2 6:12

Yeah, onto the news article. Not really beef is more. Kanye used a for iron. Oh yeah, an Ironman sample, and he didn't even ask Ozzy if he could. Which one, no correction he.

Speaker 1 6:28

he asked Ozzy if he could. Ozzy said no.

Speaker 2 6:33

No, no, can't. No, I'm looking at now using an unauthorized sample.

Speaker 1 6:40

Yeah, it's unauthorized, because Ozzy said no and then he did it anyway.

Speaker 2 6:46

Ah well, he removed it, to be fair.

Speaker 1 6:51

Gotcha.

Speaker 2 6:51

Kanye was cut that black Sabbath sample.

Speaker 1 6:55

Hmm, so he kind of corrected his mistake, yeah.

Speaker 2 7:00

But I didn't know. He asked I nothing I've ever read said he asked, but Ozzy was like I'm not, I don't want to be associated with this man whatsoever.

Speaker 1 7:13

Which is fair?

Speaker 2 7:14

Yeah.

Speaker 1 7:15

Yeah, so there's a bit of there's a bit of Kanye news because of all of that and and obviously the the basically putting out the new album that people are freaking out about. My brother is really big into Kanye, unfortunately, and I both of my brothers are, and I'm like I don't get it. Yeah, he made graduation, like I don't care.

Speaker 2 7:40

I mean to be fair. I'm not a rap fan by any means. There is rap that I do like, but it's not the same as me being a metalhead. Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 1 7:51

And both of them are hip hop heads. Yeah.

Speaker 2 7:54

So I definitely don't get Kanye's appeal.

Speaker 1 7:57

Yeah, me neither. I think the the Well, I was going to. The only song I like that he's on I think it's because I like Jay Z more than him is the title that I can't say in Paris, because that song does kind of go hard. But now.

Speaker 2 8:18

Is it because you can't say it or you don't want to say it?

Speaker 1 8:24

A little bit of both.

Speaker 2 8:25

No, a little bit of both. There's a difference, ethan, there's a difference.

Speaker 1 8:31

There is a. There is a difference. Moving on to something a little bit more positive, this is not a band that I particularly listen to, and neither does Mitch. We talked a little bit about it while we were gathering news sources but I am aware of the band Kitty. They're known as a they're, they're known as a all, all woman metal band, and they released their new or they released a new song for the first time in 13 years. Apparently, it's really heavy. It's called Eyes Wide Open. I have not checked it out yet, but I might after this podcast.

Speaker 1 9:02

With eyes, wide open With eyes wide open, with eyes wide open, with eyes wide open. I can't. I cannot do Creed man, unless if it's Alter Bridge, which is Creed, but with a better singer.

Speaker 2 9:16

But where's the lie?

Speaker 1 9:18

So Kitty released a new song.

Speaker 2 9:19

It's not even just it's not even just Creed with a better singer. I mean, it is the members of Creed with a better singer, but they don't even sound like Creed Instrumentally. They're they're.

Speaker 1 9:31

they are heavier and prog gear, would you?

Speaker 2 9:35

call them prog gear. They're a little bit proggy sometimes.

Speaker 1 9:40

OK.

Speaker 2 9:41

Sometimes sometimes I'm not saying they're a prog metal band, they're an alternative metal band.

Speaker 1 9:48

But they do have some bangers, they do. I do have some bangers.

Speaker 2 9:52

I listen to them, like maybe a couple of months ago on my endeavor to listen to all the music that I own and give Everyone a fair shake, because even though I own 50 gigs of music, I probably listen to all of like 10 gigs of it Right Over and over again.

Speaker 2 10:12

And I'm so I'm going through and I'm like, do I really like this? No, dali, do I really like this? Holy shit. Why did I forget this band, that kind of thing, and Alter Bridge was one of the holy shits. Why I forget this? I love this in high school and it's still good.

Speaker 1 10:27

Yeah, kitty dropped a new song. They're then moving on to another big name that I actually know a little bit more about, not necessarily because I've listened to his projects, although I have listened to more than I have of Kitty. David Vincent, who was, I believe, the original vocalist for Morbid Angel he is no longer in the band Came out and spoke a little bit about modern death metal vocals and, to be fair, I started reading the article and the headlines were being a little bit what's the what's the phrase over embellishing what he was saying? What taking things out of context? What come on?

Speaker 2 11:09

news article. Come on, never. It's almost like we live in an age where they try to grab your attention and give you an opinion before you read the full article.

Speaker 1 11:20

Exactly what the what the article headline said was David Vincent says if you have something to say but you can't understand it, then why say it? He was talking about, like the really unintelligible death metal vocals.

Speaker 2 11:32

Oh, you mean the ones that I absolutely hate.

Speaker 1 11:35

Well, I mean, I don't care what you hate.

Speaker 2 11:40

Do you mean? Do you mean Dying fetus?

Speaker 1 11:48

At least at least John Gallagher. Yeah, he's probably in there, but I read a little bit more and he, he, he did clarify that. That's quote. Everybody's got to do what's right for them. That's just not right for me, unquote. Specifically talking about the unintelligible vocal style from some of his peers, he says I don't have a lot of commentary about what people do. I'm either a fan of it or I'm not, but that doesn't matter. Thankfully there's enough choices out there or folks can figure out if they want to listen to this or what have you. So he's a bit less judgmental about it than I thought based off of the headlines.

Speaker 2 12:23

Not too contrarian about it.

Speaker 1 12:26

Yeah, not he's, he was chill, he was chill. I still don't really like morbid angel, but David Vincent was chill about it. And then I have two more things. I have like a disturbed ranked Well, and I pulled that because Mitchell used to be a big fan it's actually very true.

Speaker 2 12:44

I was huge into disturbed to the point I always wore is disturbed beanie. At school they were my gateway band and I loved them up until asylum. And like I like the asylum, but anything after asylum I'm like meh, yeah, no, I got you Asylum, had some bangers, but before we do that.

Speaker 1 13:07

I know I was saying I have that and yeah, I was going to go back to you because you had some more news, and then I just have like a tour announcement as well. Yeah, what tour?

Speaker 2 13:17

are you speaking of Ethan?

Speaker 1 13:19

Oh, Death Clock announced a 2024 tour with a dragon force which I thought was kind of an odd choice, and Necrogoblacon, which is an odd choice compared to dragon force. But they are. They do be going on tour and they're stopping by our town, which is nice. I really do want to go check out Death Clock.

Speaker 2 13:44

I think that'd be a sick show to go to Death Clock is one of the few bands that is still on my list to see live. If for no other reason, then I got so hurt by Randy Blythe for a tour that had to be canceled because he had to go and throw somebody off a stage and get arrested for it. Oh, the tour was and you got to confirm with me that this is got to. This is a sick lineup. Gojira is the opener Death Clock.

Speaker 1 14:19

Good start. Yeah, lamb of God, that is a sick lineup.

Speaker 2 14:26

I had tickets, I was ready to go with my best friend, doug, and then we get this email while we're hanging out and it's hey, randy Blythe got arrested. He ain't getting out of jail anytime soon. Bada, bing, bada, boom, yeah, tour canceled, yeah, yeah, that. Just that destroyed me, and I have seen all those bands aside from Death Clock. So Death Clock is one of the few, like final bands that I wanna see live that I still need to. Hakin is another one.

Speaker 2 15:07

Yeah definitely, which I admit I think I've already missed seeing Hakin here in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 15:13

They did come by recently, didn't they?

Speaker 2 15:16

Yeah, I missed them too. If they haven't come by yet, they're like getting ready to. If they haven't come by yet, I might actually go and see them, but it's I'm less interested in the tour because it's their Fauna album.

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Speaker 1 15:33

Yeah, oh, yeah, yeah. But they'll probably end up doing like a hey, ethan, do you wanna-.

Speaker 2 15:37

On-core, Do you wanna? Oh no, it's. They're the only band on there. They're playing like two hours a night. What were you going to ask? You wanna go see Hakin, because it hasn't happened yet. Potentially. When is it? It's the 22nd, Like next week.

Speaker 1 15:54

Yeah.

Speaker 2 15:55

Thursday that might be a stretch.

Speaker 1 15:58

That might be a stretch. I don't know if I can or not.

Speaker 2 16:01

How much are tickets? I will ask let's see how much tickets are. They shouldn't be like more than 30 bucks $35. It's not bad.

Speaker 1 16:11

No.

Speaker 2 16:12

Oh, it's more cash-sure seating.

Speaker 1 16:12

I'll ask but the problem is, I think one of our editors is out on vacation next week. Oh, and we have a new guy. Did you know that?

Speaker 2 16:22

the I didn't know. This Old National Center does orchestra seating.

Speaker 1 16:29

Yeah, yes, cause I saw. I think that's where I saw Primus and we had seats.

Speaker 2 16:38

So yeah, there's that we could go see Hakin if we really wanted to for 35 bucks Potentially.

Speaker 1 16:47

I'll ask my boss, but I it might be a stretch cause it's so soon. Yeah, what was I saying? I checked out a little bit of Death album four I listened to Mermaid or three. Not very impressed with that one. It's definitely not as good as Mermaid or and really not as good as Mermaid or two I've come to Mermaid or two is so good. Yes, I have come to think that Mermaid or two is the best out of them. Well, yeah, it's very, very good. But yeah, so Death Clock's on tour. I really want to go see that. I think Dragon Force would be fun to see, and Dickie Allen is doing vocals for Necrogoblincon right now.

Speaker 2 17:28

And I also found out he doesn't do the clean vocals. The goblin does the clean vocals. Now Interesting.

Speaker 1 17:35

Yeah, okay, and I've just been interested to see what Dickie Allen can do, live, just cause he's a monster on studio takes. But yeah, that was Death.

Speaker 2 17:46

Clock. So that was Death Clock news In terms of my news. Ir's murder is touring for the first time North America since getting rid of CJ.

Speaker 1 17:59

Yes, yes, I did see that. Who is the new vocalist? Hold on New Thyar? Tyler Miller. Oh, he was the guy from a versions crown. That means nothing to me, but I know the band but I've never listened to them. To my knowledge, gotcha, from my understanding, from the, I believe they released an album with him on it already. From my understanding he sounds a lot like CJ, so they're not really shaking up the stylings all that much, but you know it's. I mean, cj was kicked out for a reason, so Many reasons actually. Yeah, so hopefully, hopefully, tyler does well in the band. I am interested to see what the band does because I liked a few Thyar songs. Basically, anytime they came out with a new single I would check it out, but album wise I was always kind of meh. Yeah, so they're on tour. I'm probably not going to go catch that tour, but they are on tour.

Speaker 2 19:04

I mean, are you a Thyar's murder fan?

Speaker 1 19:07

I like some Thyar. Really, the songs that I like are songs they just don't play live. Like my favorite Thyar song is they Will Know Another, which is just a. It's actually a very impactful and emotional song and I just don't think.

Speaker 2 19:22

I don't think they play it live, risking everything. Right now, I have a very curious cat that's trying to walk on my keyboard. Which cat is it? It's Suck-O-Tash. Oh, cute Suck-O-Tash. So cute Sabbath. Sabbath doesn't cause problems unless it involves a milkshake or chicken bones, which is why I can't leave trash around the house. I shouldn't do that either but I do Some more positive news though. Besides a cute little kitty cat, all Shall Parish revealed their lineup they're coming back.

Speaker 1 20:01

Oh, yeah, yeah, is Eddie back in there with them? I believe he is. Yes, okay, that's really cool. I've lonely listened to one All Shall Parish record. It's the green one. It's the one that a lot of people know.

Speaker 2 20:19

I love how metal records can just be identified by color Hold on, I gotta figure out. Especially if you listen to Berenice, where they actually named the albums the color.

Speaker 1 20:36

The Price of Existence. That's the album.

Speaker 2 20:40

See, I'm all for Black Dolly and Murder's blue album, but their red album's really good too.

Speaker 1 20:46

True, but they have two red albums. No, I would say one's more orange. Okay, fair enough, fair enough.

Speaker 2 20:55

But yeah, so All Shall Talking about them. Yeah, All Shall Parish coming back.

Speaker 1 20:59

That's big news. People really like All Shall Parish. I think they're pretty deice. They're like melodic deathcore type stuff At least this album that I listened to, the one song.

Speaker 2 21:11

I really liked by them, which I can't remember what it's called, which I think might be from the green album.

Speaker 1 21:18

Wage Slaves?

Speaker 2 21:18

No, I would look it up, but I risk potentially crashing my computer.

Speaker 1 21:27

I can literally run through every track if you want me to Go to YouTube.

Speaker 2 21:30

Go to YouTube and you know what? I have a phone. Let's use the phone. Let's go to the phone, folks.

Speaker 1 21:44

Yeah. Da, da, da da da, da, da, da, da, da da.

Speaker 2 21:48

Oh, no, no, da da da da da, da da da da da da, da da da da da da Da da da da, da da da.

Speaker 1 21:57

Da da, da da da da da, did it, it, did it, did it. Do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do do.

Speaker 2 22:06

I got. Where is it? Did it it? Do, do, do do do, all right, I'm done. Also Paris music video. Okay, apparently this album. No, there is nothing left.

Speaker 1 22:18

There is nothing left.

Speaker 2 22:21

Might not be from Green Album.

Speaker 1 22:23

That is not from Green Album. Well, let me look it up. There is nothing left. All shall perish that. What albums that from?

Speaker 2 22:40

Genius help me out is true, it's from.

Speaker 1 22:44

This is where it ends. This is where it ends all shall perish. Wikipedia, so that album doesn't even have any. Oh, yes, it does. Okay, yes, it does. Cool, I've never heard that one. I might have to check it out.

Speaker 2 23:03

It's one of those. I was that emo kid deathcore songs when it's like they have a faith.

Speaker 1 23:12

No more cover on this record, oh.

Speaker 2 23:15

So surprise.

Speaker 1 23:17

I'm gonna have to check that out too.

Speaker 2 23:20

That's why I liked it, because I was a sad emo kid when I liked it fair enough. Yeah, that was. There was less than the last record 2011. So, as an adult, I don't listen to deathcore anymore, unless it's apparently good deathcore, which then I don't recognize his deathcore. Except it's still deathcore but I don't recognize it as deathcore.

Speaker 1 23:47

Boo.

Speaker 2 23:49

Yeah anyways. So yeah, some positive news. And then why don't we talk about some not positive news folks? You ever been on a dating app and, yes, you really really working out with this person. Everything's clicking? Not at all. They just well, that's because you don't talk to women, ethan.

Speaker 1 24:13

Yeah, screw with an up top.

Speaker 2 24:16

Yeah, um, we would like to Sincerely apologize. Now we actually do like women.

Speaker 1 24:25

I don't apologize for nothing.

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Speaker 2 24:27

Okay, kanye. Anyways, the reason I bring up ghosting, as the children call it the cool kids, if you will is uh, this is your segue, wait.

Speaker 1 24:43

It's a second you got. It took me a second to remember the story you're about to bring up and I'm like, okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 24:49

You're ruining it. You're ruining it. You're ruining everything I'm doing by interrupting me. Okay, this was no. No, this was triple a gold. Platinum Level of segue are you talking about.

Speaker 1 25:06

Are you sure it's not chromed plastic?

Speaker 2 25:09

It could be chrome plastic, everything's chrome in the future. Everyone knows that. Anyways, insomniums, guitarists. I'm going to butcher this Nordic man's name. I'm going to say it's yane Li, my tians, nins, sure, yeah, just completely ghosted the band and there are four piece right now. And for those of you who have no clue who that man is, he's the one that does the clean vocals, as well as some of the guitar, but he's just like completely Disappeared to. Here's a quote many of you have been asking where Nordic man's name is and why there has been no update about his status in the band. The answer is really simple for a long time we didn't know where he was and we could not reach him by any means. Geez, I Don't know why you would do that to the band. I actually had my guitarist when I had a band quote unquote, ghost me but we were also high school students. Yeah, also not. World-renowned Nordic melodic death metal yours, locally renowned.

Speaker 2 26:25

We weren't even locally renowned, but I think my girlfriend at the time knew my band existed and that's about it. I and I'm sure she didn't want to know that my band existed. Yeah, probably not Probably, but yeah, that's just so strange. I don't know, ethan, what do you think?

Speaker 1 26:48

Yeah, it's incredibly weird just to bounce and Disappear from your band, although that kind of happened a couple of times when, at least as far as I know, in a past band I was in that, I think that happened with the drummer a couple of times where he just disappeared for a few weeks. But like to just disappear and like not being able to be contacted at all for an extended period of time when you're a national act, it's a little funky.

Speaker 2 27:26

It's a little funky and they like didn't want to address it because they still had hope. I'm reading more of the quote but, paraphrasing it they still had hope that like, hey, maybe someone's just up with them and he's trying to figure out stuff, but Eventually the band's going to have to move on regardless, like it's a job. So I but they're not letting you know affect any of their live shows. They're still doing live show stuff and they are. Oh, brandon Ellis from the black dolly murder is agreed to fill in the second guitar parts.

Speaker 2 28:06

Huh, that's a solid replacement and Nick Cordell of Omnium Gather, which I think Nick was. I Think Nick is in the band somewhat Already. Let me look it up very quick.

Speaker 1 28:24

I do it on your phone.

Speaker 2 28:26

Too late. Nope, this is somebody different. Mine, it's fine computer didn't crash. We're good. For those of you don't know, for some reason, even though I got 32 gigs of RAM and like a 30 is 16 core processor, cubase likes to have audio dropouts on my end if I use Chrome. It's weird. I don't know, I'm not. I'm not the computer tech man I thought I was not when it comes to audio equipment, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 28:56

See, I use Reaper and Microsoft Edge and I don't have any problems, but that means I also admit to using Microsoft Edge, which I yeah, why would you admit that which I think is a 100% effective birth?

Speaker 2 29:13

control. I was about to say no wonder you're having so many problems on dating apps.

Speaker 1 29:18

I thought it was because you didn't talk to women is it weird that I open up my dating profile with I use Microsoft Edge?

Speaker 2 29:25

Yeah, because then they know you edge.

Speaker 1 29:29

You've been edging for four hours. Maybe take a break.

Speaker 2 29:35

Hey, ethan, would you like to talk about our favorite band, Slayer oh?

Speaker 1 29:40

I suppose I could talk about Slayer. I don't have the actual Thing pulled up, but I I know the gist. There's a couple things that have come out about Kerry King being a douchebag.

Speaker 2 29:51

Essentially, no, no, no, no. Kerry King a douchebag, come on now.

Speaker 1 29:55

Yeah, you know, it was announced recently that he apparently has not talked to Tom Araya since Slayer's last show. I mean kind of a dick move, but you know that's not gonna, that's neither here or there. Also, which are tequila with him, though.

Speaker 2 30:12

He would share it.

Speaker 1 30:12

Okay, fair enough, fair enough. But also, dave Lombardo is dead to him for some reason. I Don't know. I didn't read that article, I just rolled my eyes at it. Maybe they're being hyperbolic on the on the thing, but with Kerry King I really don't think so. And the other big one was he announced that he basically played base on all of Slayer's early records.

Speaker 2 30:39

At least early since the early 90s, which I don't believe and I do believe it, but Only because I hate Slayer so much and I hate Kerry King. I Think he's a talentless hack.

Speaker 1 30:59

I saw people. I saw people arguing about it the other day and People were saying he's a really good rhythm player, which I I Guess you can call him a decent rhythm player, but his leads are hot trash.

Speaker 2 31:14

Yeah, sure, but yeah, I Don't even know what. What's the point of bringing all this up, especially after you just like, oh, I haven't talked to Tom Araya, so now I'm just gonna be like Bbbb well, he announced his new band. Yeah, but who cares which?

Speaker 1 31:33

is a cleverly titled Kerry King.

Speaker 2 31:37

Yeah, and weren't they on a tour that I was interested in until I saw that Kerry King was on it?

Speaker 1 31:44

I believe they are touring, but I am unsure of what?

Speaker 2 31:48

yeah, can, can you look up what the touring? Because it was somebody.

Speaker 1 31:52

I was like, oh, that's cool or I Don't want to go to Kerry King's official Website. I really don't. I'll go to Arrow Lords of Metal.

Speaker 2 32:07

Oh, speaking of tours, by the way, that death clock tour you San Francisco, people get special. I think it's San Francisco Get a special tour because it's it's baby clock. Oh.

Speaker 1 32:23

Yeah, yeah, I forgot about that.

Speaker 2 32:25

Oh, I forgot about baby clock.

Speaker 1 32:27

I found it. It was the Lamb of God. Mastodon tour.

Speaker 2 32:31

That's right, the Lamb of God mastodon tour where they're Doing the entirety of ashes of the wake and Leviathan, which I'm not a huge fan of Leviathan I know as a mastodon fan and that's like blasphemous but I like. They're more proggy stuff. Sorry, not sorry. That is a sick riff it is a great riff. Fuck Kerry King. I think that's an opinion I can have, sure, so, uh, that's all the news I have in terms of music.

Speaker 1 33:10

Do you want to save the disturbed ranking for after the oh?

Speaker 2 33:14

we always do the rankings after. We gotta do the rankings after. In terms of video games, uh, Ethan, have you been playing anything besides spelunky Isaac and that one other game that you always play?

Speaker 1 33:27

Well, always is a stretch. I'm currently doing the godfather 2 as my full playthrough game.

Gaming Conversation

Speaker 1 33:32

That's right, it was godfather past couple of weeks I've just been feeling off, so I've really only been doing my um Isaac streams. But I did do spelunky yesterday and I've been experimenting. I've been I've been posting shorts onto the gamecom channel and they've actually been getting decent views. Um, I posted a Dark Souls themed one where I was basically talking about a dark souls randomizer video. I watched and I don't know if the bit sucked or if Dark Souls fans are just really stingy, but it got like bombarded with dislikes. Um, the one I posted the one I posted today Was a of me dying unexpectedly in spelunky 2 and you can pinpoint the exact moment where I Give up on life and I think I called it heartbreak. That's spelunky 2, baby, or something like that, and it's got a little over a thousand views, so that that's cool.

Speaker 1 34:36

Um, yeah, I've been playing those. What have I? Haven't really been playing anything else. I haven't touched my playstation in a number of weeks. Give it to me. I'm not gonna give it to you. I'll Give it to me. No, I'm not even gonna sell it to you.

Speaker 2 34:51

No, we're best friends. Give it to me. That's how best friends work.

Speaker 1 34:57

I'm not gonna give you my playstation.

Speaker 2 34:59

You owe me.

Speaker 1 35:00

How do I owe you? In fact, I owe me money.

Speaker 2 35:05

Uh, excuse me, you were kind enough to give. I gave you a coat.

Speaker 1 35:11

Okay, that paid for one of the meals I covered.

Speaker 2 35:15

Wow, that was an official FedEx coat the first one.

Speaker 1 35:19

I've ever only had to wear at once.

Speaker 2 35:23

Was it today? Because today is actually really cold and snowy, I probably could have used it today, but no, I.

Speaker 1 35:29

I got home before it started. Well, I guess we went out to eat, but I, no. I wore it that day. You gave it to me and then it was like 60 for the next two weeks, you know the normal average Wintertime temperature in february of 60 degrees.

Speaker 2 35:46

Yeah, the world's not on fire, um no, uh. Anyways, yeah, maybe I owe you money, but I give you my friendship and I deal with you. Uh, I think, I think that's worth the playstation live.

Speaker 1 36:01

Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 36:02

Yeah, um, I do this podcast.

Speaker 1 36:08

Very irregularly. I might add. Well, that's not my fault. Usually I know that's that's on both of us. No, today, I, I, I did buy a new game, or I pre-ordered a game. Today, I pre-ordered the new wwe game. Uh, why? Because I'm a sucker and I like those games. Weren't the last like couple ones, hot trash? No, the only one that was hot trash was 2k 20. Okay, uh, the past couple have been really good, but I, I, I pre-ordered the 110 dollar version.

Speaker 2 36:42

Oh my god, what the fuck? Why? What does it come with?

Speaker 1 36:46

Uh, extra dlc and wrestlers and I'm probably gonna also get that version on playstation as well.

Speaker 2 36:57

Ethan yeah, please start spending your money on me. If you're going to just waste it, I'm not wasting and I'm gonna stream it.

Speaker 1 37:10

Mmm, all right, I think maybe I really want to play GM mode with somebody, but like nobody, like the person that says they will is always busy and then nobody else I know likes wrestling enough to like Do GM mode properly.

Speaker 2 37:30

Yeah, don't ask me, I wasn't gonna ask you. Good, good Good.

Speaker 1 37:36

I wasn't going to good. Now it's fun. It's a management thing.

Speaker 2 37:44

It's oh boy, management. If I wanted to go into management, I would apply to the manager position at my job, so I could play football manager.

Speaker 1 37:55

Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 37:57

Uh, if I was going to do manager, it'd be racing manager. Thank you, fair enough, yes.

Speaker 1 38:02

Um, I don't have much for PC gaming news, but there is a big game that dropped Uh in between our last episode. In this episode, which is pal world, it's pokemon the adones.

Speaker 2 38:14

The adult pokemon.

Speaker 1 38:16

Yes, it is. It is pokemon with guns and there's been some Controversies about it. I've seen things where people are accusing them of using AI art or ripping off designs from pokemon or Nintendo, potentially looking into suing them or this, that or the other. I I haven't looked super deep into it. I've never played pal world. My roommate plays it, um, jake plays it, and apparently it's fun. I just I've just had no interest in trying it. I don't know, that's just what I, it's just pal world. I just wanted to bring up pal world.

Speaker 2 38:55

I, I just for me One. I'm not a big pokemon fan. To begin with it was part of my childhood, like you know there's that, but, um, I was never super into it and it's. It's just another survival build management game. Um, in some ways it's kind of like factorial, but with enslavement instead of robots. Hmm, uh, because you can, you know, get your pals to mine and build and everything for you. It looks fun if you're into that kind of gameplay and everything, but it's just not, it's not for me.

Speaker 2 39:39

Now, a game that is for me is diving into hell for patriotism and freedom, in other words, helldivers too. Let me tell you I am in love with this game. I've been bored on Destiny 2, which was the game I played with all my friends for the longest time. It was just getting boring and tedious. Helldivers 2 is so much fun.

Speaker 2 40:03

It's got all the satire starship troopers you know that over like the top patriotism let's. You know Specieside is totally okay for in the sake of patriotism and freedom kind of thing. So that satire is there constantly. You'll like throw a grenade and your guy will just scream for freedom, for democracy. And you know you get your one-liners like how does democracy taste you bug and stuff like that. It's also starship troopers and the fact that you either fight bugs or it's Terminator, where you're fighting robots and the robots are so hard. But what makes the game fun as a co-op is one you actually have to like tactically talk to your squad because Friendly Fire is on, and let me tell you, it is really easy to kill people in this game People running in front of you, you turning around not paying attention, or the other cool thing that you do is you after you drop in. You have these things called stratagems.

Speaker 2 41:19

And it's basically a grenade that you code and throw and it calls in like orbital bombardments.

Speaker 1 41:29

Ah, Mercenaries 2 style.

Speaker 2 41:33

Or you call in like an airstrike or you're like huh, I need a machine gun. And you call that in your spaceship that's up in orbit drops a machine gun for you. It is so fun, it's just simple gameplay that like you can kind of turn your brain off, and it's just overwhelming hordes constantly.

Speaker 1 41:56

Yeah, Jake wanted to play that today. I just didn't know if I wanted to buy it or not. I don't know, I might. It looks interesting. It's just multiplayer. Games aren't usually my shtick.

Speaker 2 42:14

And you can like solo or you can play with Rando's, but it's definitely best played with like three other friends right Over discord. But yeah, I highly recommend Helldivers 2 for people that want a fun multiplayer game with their friends. That's not competitive and in terms of news and I'm happy about this, the lead dev was like we're not going to add PvP. This is not a game for PvP. We don't want that toxicity.

Speaker 1 42:47

And it doesn't need PvP. Yeah, I'm on PC gamer right now. That's the very top article. It says Helldivers 2 boss says it'll never add PvP and for anyone looking for it, I recommend Tarkov.

Speaker 2 43:00

Yeah, which God Tarkov is toxic as fuck.

Speaker 1 43:04

Yeah, I can't do Tarkov, it's so sweaty.

Speaker 2 43:09

It's very sweaty, like if you're not, if you're not drenched in your own sweat playing Tarkov, you're not playing Tarkov. And what was another article about Helldivers 2? They're hiring dev teams because they weren't ready for it to be as popular as it is. So, oh, they have a. They have a cool feature. That's right, I forgot about this. There is a feature. Now, it's completely random if it happens to you and it's probably unlikely that it will, but they have people watching the games that are like devs that can call in stuff for you, so they might make the hordes harder or bring in a boss out of nowhere. The actual development team is actively watching some people's gameplays.

Speaker 2 44:07

Yeah like high end streamers.

Speaker 1 44:10

Yeah, I've heard of other games doing that before.

Speaker 2 44:14

Yeah, but it's a cool feature to do that to people. So I highly recommend Helldivers 2. Again, you want like a fun co-op online multiplayer.

Speaker 1 44:28

Gotcha? Yeah, I might have to look into it. Eventually, rocksteady released a new game.

Speaker 2 44:35

Rocksteady released a new game. What game did Rocksteady?

Speaker 1 44:37

release Suicide Squad Kill the Justice League. Um. It's been pretty much bombarded with negative reviews.

Speaker 2 44:48

I heard it's not the worst thing.

Speaker 1 44:50

Yeah, I've heard it's okay at best. There's a problem with scaling. The game gets pretty repetitive. I've heard that, like, traversal is fun, the combat's okay at first, but it gets. It does get repetitive. And then a lot of people didn't like how some of the heroes died in the story. I guess Batman's in particular was very, very not satisfying. But I haven't played it so I can't really comment on it. I can only go by the footage I've seen and it looks chaotic and it looks like a. It looks like it's a live service game that got stripped of some of the live service aspects and then they didn't change anything else about it, when really all they needed to do was make another Arkham game. But you play as the Suicide Squad.

Speaker 2 45:47

There's that, or they could have just like tried to copy the formula that um oh God, what was it? What's the Marvel space one? Guardians of the Galaxy.

Speaker 1 46:00

Oh yeah, I haven't played that yet. I've heard it's great though.

Speaker 2 46:04

Yeah, I heard it was great. I've seen some gameplay. It looks fun. So stop doing live service like for games. That should be single player. Come on, big, agree, stop it. And that's funny because Hell Divers 2 is live servers, but it's also multiplayer and it's not paid to win, so it's a little different there.

Speaker 1 46:29

We're saying, yeah, that's pretty much all I got on gaming news and then movies. We haven't really done movies in a little while. First of all, I want to give a big round of applause to Madam Web for absolutely killing it in the box office. It's a chef's kiss. It's great Sitting at a whopping 13% of Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 2 46:53

Is it better than Morbyn?

Speaker 1 46:56

You know, people have been debating if it's better or worse than Morbius. Unfortunately, or maybe fortunately, I haven't seen either film. So and I use film with quotation marks yeah, I don't know People are saying it is not very good and, to be honest, you could probably tell that by the trailers and I think even one of the actresses, like as soon as the check cleared, she started like making fun of the movie, essentially in interviews and stuff. But yeah, madam Web came out. It's getting crapped on and it kind of makes sense. There was a and then there's a couple of trailers that came out. We'll save the big one for last.

Speaker 1 47:38

Godzilla vs Kong released a new trailer, surprisingly, I've not watched it yet, but apparently it shows off a couple new monsters and it shows off a lot of action and I'm looking forward to the movie. It can't be any dumber than the last Godzilla vs Kong movie. I wasn't a huge fan of that one. Surprisingly, and especially coming off of Godzilla minus one, it's going to have to be entertaining. It's not going to be serious, obviously, but it needs to really step up on the entertainment value for me and hopefully it does that. I mean you have King Kong with a freaking mech glove. It seems like it's going to be really stupid. Which I can turn my brain off. I can watch Big Monkey punch other monkey. Hopefully that movie is good. Once I see it I'll report back on it. And then obviously, the big one.

Speaker 1 48:37

The big trailer that released during the Super Bowl is Deadpool 3, officially titled Deadpool and Wolverine. It is officially the most watched trailer ever Now with like I believe it has like 375 million views or something like that. That's ridiculous. Yes, tons and tons and tons of views. And the trailer looks good. It looks very, very fun.

Speaker 1 49:06

I liked both of the Deadpool movies. I liked Deadpool 2 more than I did Deadpool 1. And this one seems like it's going to be bringing Deadpool into the MCU. I think if Disney commits to the Deadpool humor which from the trailer it seems like they are committing, I think that Deadpool can definitely shed some humor on kind of the weak sauce phase four of the Marvel cinematic phases right now, and I think he can really bring in some new life to it. I'm excited to see Deadpool interact with other characters. I'm also excited to see Hugh Jackman back as Wolverine. It'll be interesting to see that how he does there, compared to, like, his send off with Logan was perfect, so having him back Hugh Jackman but I doubt he's going to like do bad. I think Hugh Jackman is going to play Wolverine well, just because he always has. So Deadpool looks really fun. I'm excited to watch it. It's coming out in July, I think July 26th, a week after my birthday.

Speaker 1 50:23

Oh, so I'm excited for that one. Okay, looks real cool trailers funny. I highly recommend it if you haven't seen it.

Speaker 2 50:31

Haven't seen Deadpool 2.

Speaker 1 50:33

Deadpool 2 is better than Deadpool 1, in my opinion.

Speaker 2 50:38

Hmm, to check it out. If it's, oh, it's on Disney Plus, damn it. I won't be able to check it out legally.

Speaker 1 50:46

Did it, did it, did it, did it, did it.

Speaker 2 50:48

Deadpool would support you pirating Deadpool 2 hmm, for the safety of everything, I will not pirate Deadpool 2. Any FBI agents that listen.

Speaker 1 51:01

I feel like there was something else in the term in the realm of movies, wasn't? There's something else we we had brought up.

Speaker 2 51:08

I Nothing I brought up.

Speaker 1 51:14

We were talking about played at one point that was, yeah, that was when we were talking about people. Oh yeah, fantastic for they announced. They announced fantastic for, with Pedro Pascal playing mr Fantastic, they got an actor from Punisher to play the thing, and I am unaware of the other two actors and actor, actor and actress. But um, yeah, I mean they, they had to reboot. Fantastic for they weren't going to continue. They weren't gonna continue with fan for stick or the other ones they came out with in 06.

Speaker 2 51:53

I just, when it came out. Well, do you had the one scene from Um, oh god, what's her name? She's in love with the robot man Wanda. Wanda. Where she didn't, she like, kill the fantastic for mr Fantastic and whatever?

Speaker 1 52:15

Yeah, so in Dr Strange multiverse of madness spoiler yes, spoilers for Dr Strange multiverse of madness. If you haven't seen it, it's a good movie. You should check it out. My dad hated it, but he had no idea what was going on because he hadn't watched the TV shows and I can only explain so much in the five minute car ride to the movie theater. But, um, yeah, she, john Krz, john Krzkins, john Krikinski.

Speaker 2 52:44

The guy from the office.

Speaker 1 52:47

Jim, jim from the office Played mr Fantastic, and that kind of as a wink and a nod, because people are saying he should play mr Fantastic. And so he did. It was just gonna be a one-off. People are like what's Pedro Pascal playing mr Fantastic and not John Krikinski?

Speaker 2 53:02

but that's good, john Krikinski is dead.

Speaker 1 53:06

It's a whole another topic. Yeah, she, she kills him. It wasn't all of the Fantastic four, it was just him and other members of the Illuminati in that universe. But yeah, so Fantastic four was announced and then they, they released a trailer and an announcement for the release date of X-Men 97, which is a TV show continuing the 90s X-Men cartoon.

Speaker 2 53:30

Oh, oh, that was a good cartoon Marvel.

Speaker 1 53:36

Marvel might be cooking again. Yeah, I might be that part, I wouldn't go that part. But I mean, Deadpool is definitely cooking.

Speaker 2 53:46

Ethan, you know what I could use right now cooking. It's specifically a type of cooking that you really enjoy, where we get into the meat and potatoes oh.

Speaker 1 54:01

You're trying to move the podcast.

Speaker 2 54:02

I'm trying to the podcast along, because it's been an hour.

Speaker 1 54:07

Fine, yeah, we have. We have some albums to listen there, to talk about, of course.

Speaker 2 54:14

Do we definitely have listened to.

Speaker 1 54:16

We definitely have and you know what, I'll go ahead and field it and go first, because my, my Review is gonna be really easy. It's gonna be short, sweeten, to the point.

Speaker 2 54:26

Oh good, then definitely means that he loved it and it was a perfect album.

Speaker 1 54:32

Let me pull it up real quick. I know it's ancients with two eyes. Two eyes. That's the important part. Yeah, I think they just re-released something of theirs too.

Speaker 2 54:43

They really released their first album and they're working on their third album, which it's been forever Her yeah, stop touring release the album.

Speaker 1 54:53

Mitchell gave me voice of the void by ancients. This is a Prague metal album. This album is boring as shit. Oh, I Just could not do it, man, I. I listened to it about three or four times. I can't remember a damn thing about the album. The only lyric I remember is your silver spoon should have been poisoned, and it's not like, as I'm listening to it, there weren't. There wasn't a part here or there that was like, okay, that's kind of a cool riff for this, that or the other, but overall I I Constantly, constantly, I bring up, usually while I'm listening to the album on Spotify, all heart songs that stick out to me or that I really, really enjoy Nothing, nothing.

Speaker 1 55:47

For the first three listens could not Pick anything apart. The last time I listened to it I did my normal thing Usually when I have my last couple of listens, I will play some slave aspire on my PlayStation, I'll load it up on Spotify on PlayStation and I'll listen through, and it was just a chore to get through again. I was so bored, I don't know what about it was, was not sticking out to me. Obviously, this isn't the first Prague album You've given me. You've basically given me nothing but but there was something about this band that did not stick out to me.

Speaker 2 56:27

That's fortunate. I'm so sad to hear it because I absolutely love this band and I love that album and I think it's a brilliant album.

Speaker 1 56:37

Yeah I. I just don't see it. I'm giving it like a two.

Speaker 2 56:45

Damn, damn. This is on par with letters from the colony.

Speaker 1 56:50

No letters from the colony. I felt literally nothing about that was still a five shit.

Speaker 2 56:58

Is this more like?

Speaker 1 57:00

ulcerate, then I think I, I think I like ulcerate more nah well, I Believe it is my lowest review. In fact I'm gonna make it my lowest review. It's a one I tried. I really tried with this one, but it it nothing stuck stuck out to me. It was kind of a chore to get through by. By my fourth listen. I'm sitting there with I'm sitting there with my roommate listening to it and he's heckling the entire time.

Speaker 2 57:32

So gauge didn't like it either? No, I don't care about gauge's opinion.

Speaker 1 57:41

I mean, but he's liked a couple of the things you've given when we've listened to it. It's just, I don't know what it was about this one. I don't know if it was the, I don't know if it was because it was pretty mid-paced, or the maybe the vocals didn't do much for me.

Speaker 1 57:57

The lyrics were kind of silly here and there, or maybe it was the inflection of the voice that was performing the lyrics, like the. The one lyric I I mentioned earlier that your silver spoon should have been poisoned, was kind of hammy. But it's, it was not my thing, I apologize. I'd never like giving a negative review to your albums because it rarely happens.

Speaker 2 58:24

Because I am a master of taste you have good tastes, I Wouldn't call it a master, I wouldn't say you're a master, but you have good tastes. Well, thank you this one.

Speaker 1 58:36

This one is definitely like it's a low. So yeah, voice of the void by Ancients. If you like Prague, maybe check it out. Still, it just wasn't my type of type of music.

Speaker 2 58:49

I'm definitely giving it like a light one damn, it's like a combination of mastodon and opeth Is the best way I can put it, because you got the death growls that sound like opeth and you got a lot of the Instrumentation that sounds like mastodon.

Speaker 2 59:07

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I could hear that and that's going to make me change what I was potentially going to give you For a later time so you can have a break. Okay, maybe I'll give it to you. Maybe I'll never give it to you, so I'll Feel it now. It was going to be mastodons.

Speaker 1 59:30

Crack the sky, if you like this because I was like going to ease you in so I Think I have listened to the first song of crack this guy and you have enjoying it and you did, and I Was like, well, if he likes this, he'll probably like mastodon.

Speaker 2 59:51

It's that thing where I kind of like oh, I gave you a violin band, let's give you another violin band, or I gave you this kind of Prague, I'm going to give you another type of this, you're trying to like ease me through through like a timeline type shtick.

Speaker 1 1:00:06

Yeah, not a timeline, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 1:00:09

Categorizing basically yeah, and so I was like, alright, this is kind of mastodon-y, but it's got the death metal part, so maybe he'll like it a little bit more than he would mastodon, and maybe you'll still love mastodon. I didn't know. You like some of their stuff and I think you just have had to Evolve in your taste, because I'm sure young Ethan would have hated mastodon for sure.

Speaker 1 1:00:36

Yeah, it was one of those things where, even when I was younger, I knew the riff from blood and thunder but I Couldn't like tell you what the name was. And then I like I believe I have a couple of Mastodon songs in my light songs on Spotify. I think there's a song called the wolf and something.

Speaker 2 1:00:56

Uh that sounds familiar.

Speaker 1 1:00:58

But yeah, that wasn't crack the sky. I think that was something else.

Speaker 2 1:01:02

No, it's not, but Stood on. That's going to bother me. Mastodon the wolf is.

Speaker 1 1:01:10

Loose. The wolf is loose. Yeah, that's on there, so it's it's. I've been kind of easing my way into mastodon the way it is. But yeah, maybe maybe hold off on crack the sky for a little bit.

Speaker 2 1:01:24

Yeah, we don't need two ones in a row in in the case, or watch, watch, you listen to crack the sky and you instantly become the biggest mastodon fan that Would be a stretch, but be yeah, so it would be hilarious.

Local Band Review and Discussions

Speaker 1 1:01:41

I would give you that. So yeah, voice of the void wasn't really my thing. I appreciate checking it out, or you giving it to me. I mean, I always appreciate Checking out a new band. Maybe their other album would have tickled my fancy a little bit more. I don't know. I didn't check it out.

Speaker 2 1:02:01

I Doubt it because it's much of the same. This was an improvement on the first. Fair enough In my opinion, and also on banger TV's opinion. Okay, all right, I got you because they they. That's how I found this band, I believe was through banger TV. Mmm, that makes sense. Could be wrong, but the guy who actually did the whole headbangers, whatever journey.

Speaker 1 1:02:30

Yes, your journey.

Speaker 2 1:02:32

I forget his name, but he was the one that actually really likes ancients, so you're definitely wrong in your taste. Oh well, I'm Tano. Absolutely love ancient.

Speaker 1 1:02:44

Hold on, let me see if Fanta was reviewed at Tano?

Speaker 2 1:02:48

I doubt it.

Speaker 1 1:02:53

Hold on, something popped up. It was it in here, was it was a why you know review? No, no, there is not ancient. So, though he did do, laura Nishor's pain remains, which I'm kind of interested to see what he talks about on that. So I'm going to keep this video up.

Speaker 2 1:03:12

But there you go. Yeah, well, I guess I'll talk about the band you gave me. I definitely won't let this color, my opinion of it at all.

Speaker 1 1:03:24

Oh, you're a professional.

Speaker 2 1:03:26

It was bad, bad record, hated it. Uh huh, no, so you gave me carrying veil abcurrent obsession Apparent obsessions.

Speaker 1 1:03:36

Yeah, is that correct, ethan? Yes, abhorrent obsessions.

Speaker 2 1:03:41

I don't know why there is no reason but I have been constantly forgetting this band's name and album, and that's a shame, because it was a really safe but good pick. There was no way I was not going to like this. It's basically Black Dahlia murder.

Speaker 1 1:04:00

Well, techie here and there. Yeah, so their early stuff before this is really Black Dahlia. Yeah, I thought they actually evolved their sound a little bit on this record and well, I wouldn't know that now would I? That's fair. That's fair. I apologize.

Speaker 2 1:04:16

Yeah, I just thought this was a bit more techie than melodic.

Speaker 2 1:04:21

It is techie, but you have that like alternating skip the string riff that every melodic death metal band uses. You know the one I'm talking about where it's basically playing like octaves or something along that line, right, yeah, anyways, I by the way, I don't know if it's octaves or whatever, I just know that, like, if you're playing on the low E string, you skip the A string and go straight to the D string and you're constantly like doing that. The E string is your rhythm string and the D string is your melodic string. Music theory.

Speaker 2 1:05:00

Anyways this is really good. They added some symphonic stuff which I enjoyed, but it wasn't over the top and it was definitely way in the background and it wasn't always there, but it did add to the epicness of the sound, especially during choruses. I did have a favorite song and give me one second Professionalism.

Speaker 1 1:05:22

I'm very interested because you usually never pick out songs.

Speaker 2 1:05:26

I'm trying to be better. Don't expect it very often, but I'm trying to be better. Oh, ties of forbearance. Ok, I thought the clean singing part in there, which they only do little smettings of clean singing, is definitely mostly growls and screams. I thought the clean singing part was like a nice little cutaway, kind of doing that archspire where it's like, even though you have all the technicality of the boom, you have like this nice relaxed part that you can kind of just like breathe for a second yeah, absolutely, before going back in, and I love people that can write that stuff. This is a local band, so that's even better. I didn't know we had any local talent here in Indianapolis. That's well, that's not. That's not fair, because I do like. I did like fleshboard when you were in it. I have nothing against fleshboard now, but I haven't seen them live since you left. Well, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 1:06:30

So I hey jokes aside, I actually do think Ethan is a very talented vocalist, even though I like to raz him.

Speaker 1 1:06:42

Not Riz, mind you Razz. Yeah Razz, so yes, so Carrie and Vail is actually out of Richmond, so they are. They are local to Indiana.

Speaker 1 1:06:52

I know all of these guys Travis, Trenton, Chris and Ryan. I don't know Al that's, he must be new, but Travis is the vocalist. He's really solid. I've gotten to play with these guys a couple of times. They're actually doing a show with their touring their tour. They just announced a tour with Summoning the Lich Warforged, which was my last show with fleshboard. We played with Warforged and they're touring and then they actually have a show with fleshboard On that tour on April 12th. I think I'm going to go to that and that'll be fun. So but I'm glad you liked it. Yeah, I figured you would.

Speaker 1 1:07:30

It's it was a. I think it was kind of a safe pick, yeah, but it's I never really thought about maybe giving you some local bands and kind of giving giving some smaller bands a little bit of a little bit of a spotlight, as little as our audience is. We do have them, german fans, though.

Speaker 2 1:07:51

We do have some German fans. Yes, we have some German fans. So I give it about a seven or eight. Let's say like a seven and a half. I liked it overall. I thought some of the lyricism like in the song that I really liked. I actually watched the lyric video and noticed that they just really repeat A lot of the words over and over again. So like yeah, lyrically I'm like yeah, yeah. So every song on this record is about a different serial killer.

Speaker 1 1:08:24

I think you have Kentucky Fried strangulation, which is John Wayne Gacy, because he knows he knows a concept album. Yes, it was.

Speaker 2 1:08:34

I didn't know that. That that's interesting. I probably should have mentioned that. I just wanted to know what you think.

Speaker 1 1:08:41

I probably should have mentioned that. I just forgot to. My favorite song was King is King of the Rhine. For some reason I just hold on. I really just like the oh, they don't have the lyrics on here Of the Rhine Aryan Vale. He does repeat stuff a lot but for some reason I really like the ending of die. I just want you to die. I don't give a fuck how you just die. I don't know why it just the way he inflects. That line sounds really cool and that's probably my favorite song on the record.

Speaker 2 1:09:18

Okay, so that's. That's an interesting concept and it makes sense, especially the call that appeared in obsessions. Yeah, that's, that's our mean potatoes. Short reviews, but a hearty meal nonetheless, unfortunately, apparently one of them was rancid.

Speaker 1 1:09:37

Yeah, it's true, we also went a little bit longer on news today than we have for the past couple of episodes Just a wee bit. So now, mitchell, we have disturbed albums ranked from worse to best.

Speaker 2 1:09:49

Let's do it Now. I don't know all their albums. I know the first five and that's about it.

Speaker 1 1:09:55

But there's eight.

Speaker 2 1:09:56

But the other three should, in my opinion, be super low yeah.

Speaker 1 1:10:02

Yeah, I don't like this list, but we'll start off there with their worst album, according to Loud Wire, is Asylum.

Speaker 2 1:10:12

Wow, this is a shit list already.

Speaker 1 1:10:14

Yeah, I don't think Asylum is a bad record. Actually, I think that's still solid. It was way better than anything I heard off of divisive, which is number seven. I think that's their last record they put out after divisive is believe, Fuck them.

Speaker 2 1:10:27

This is a terrible, this terrible list, terrible, terrible list horrible list Loud Wire. What the hell are you doing? You don't know shit. You don't know shit. You need to hire me. You need to pay me. You need to pay me more than what I currently make and I will tell you what disturbed albums are good. And let me tell you believe Believe is a fantastic album. It was a departure from their weird new metal. That was on the first album and it's great. And fuck you.

Speaker 1 1:10:55

I think that's the angriest you've been on this podcast.

Speaker 2 1:10:59

It's a horrible opinion to put those two that low After believe is evidence putting from Mars. The series is like number three. Mars series is clearly Gojira's best album. Clearly, I agree.

Speaker 1 1:11:14

I agree Not even my favorite.

Speaker 2 1:11:16

It's not even my favorite, but it's still clearly their best album. Fuck this list Continue.

Speaker 1 1:11:23

After, after, believe is evolution, which was not good either. But that's where, no, that's not where their sound of silence came from. That would be immortalized, which is number four.

Speaker 2 1:11:35

Oh, at least they put. I assume they put either indestructible or 10,000 fists is number one.

Speaker 1 1:11:46

Don't tell me they put number three is indestructible, oh no. Number two is 10,000 fists, oh, come on. And number one is the sickness. Are you fucking?

Speaker 2 1:11:58

kidding me.

Speaker 1 1:12:00

Look, the sickness has good tracks, it has a couple of good tracks.

Speaker 2 1:12:03

It doesn't, but it is not their best record.

Speaker 1 1:12:06

It is not their best record, I know. I would probably say in the thermo it's the most poppy.

Speaker 2 1:12:13

Yeah, yeah, I actually wouldn't even say it's their most popular. I would say indestructible was their most popular record. Yeah, the only thing the sickness has is down with the sickness in terms of, like well-known popular songs.

Speaker 1 1:12:28

Stupify.

Speaker 2 1:12:31

Yeah, there's that, there's also voices which I think is a little bit known as well on radio.

Speaker 1 1:12:41

But then there was also drop in plates. You gotta drop the plates on their ass, bitch. Drop in plates on their ass. I did like their cover of Shout. I did like their cover of Shout.

Speaker 2 1:12:52

I did like their cover of Shout. I did like their cover of Shout.

Speaker 1 1:12:57

I did like their cover of Shout.

Speaker 2 1:13:00

Let it all out. These are the things that we talk about.

Speaker 1 1:13:05

Meaning of life was just weird. It used to be my favorite song off the record, but that's awful.

Speaker 2 1:13:10

The end of the song is literally just about a man who either really likes steak or pussy.

Speaker 1 1:13:16

Yeah, I don't know, it was just so. I really liked that song when I was younger, I don't know why.

Speaker 2 1:13:21

Actually it makes sense. You do really like steak, I do, I do like steak, so that makes sense. It tracks.

Speaker 1 1:13:28

So, yeah, that list sucks, but it's Loud Wire, so what do you expect?

Speaker 2 1:13:32

Well yeah, why do we continue to go to Loud Wire lists I?

Speaker 1 1:13:36

don't know, it's because they're the big name I should start checking out, like Metal Hammer or something.

Speaker 2 1:13:46

Metal, Hammer Metal Sucks but yeah guys. Yeah, I feel like we should figure out what records we're going to give next.

Speaker 1 1:13:56

That's a great point and I should pull up my notes. I should pull up those dang notes I have about all the records that I was going to give you. So, Mitch, I was thinking about finally double dipping, you know what's funny?

Speaker 2 1:14:12

I also was thinking about double dipping, if you didn't like ancients, hmm. Is this the album that we do that.

Speaker 1 1:14:21

Well, it depends. Because I don't have to double dip, I've got a lot of options.

Speaker 2 1:14:25

I mean, I got a lot of options too, and I could just cave and give you Mastodon.

Speaker 1 1:14:31

You know what I'm going to do it? I'm going to double dip, but I'm going to give you a choice.

Speaker 2 1:14:38

Oh.

Speaker 1 1:14:40

And you always love the choices.

Speaker 2 1:14:42

I always love the choices.

Speaker 1 1:14:45

We go with. Death Metal or we go with the hip hops.

Speaker 2 1:14:48

Oh, so either Cannibal Corpse or Aesop Rock. It wasn't Cannibal, by the way. It wasn't Cannibal, oh you sure it wasn't Cannibal.

Speaker 1 1:15:02

I'm 100% sure it wasn't. I'm looking at the album right now. It's probably Cannibal Corpse, guys, he's lying. Yeah, it's Cannibal Corpse, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:15:11

Or do you want me to just do a?

Speaker 1 1:15:12

picker.

Speaker 2 1:15:15

No, I'll take Aesop Rock Okay hell.

Speaker 1 1:15:17

yeah, I'm going to give you Aesop Rock's Garbology.

Speaker 2 1:15:21

Ah, you're doing Garbology, okay.

Speaker 1 1:15:24

Yeah, the new record was good, but I think Garbology is still really excellent. I like a ton of songs off of that record. And it's not just Aesop Rock, it's technically a collaboration with a producer named Blockhead, and Aesop and Blockhead were actually partners for a long time in Aesop's early career, up until Skelethon, when, that's when Aesop started making his own beats and they just decided to do another album together and that was Garbology. And Garbology is excellent in my opinion, and hopefully you enjoy this one as much as you did the Impossible Kid.

Speaker 2 1:16:01

I did enjoy Impossible Kid, so, okay, Garbology. It is Ethan. Do you feel like getting dark? Do you feel like diving into black metal once again? You've given me black metal. I have given you black metal.

Speaker 1 1:16:20

Oh, Batushka no.

Speaker 2 1:16:23

Batushka has only one really good album and I've already given it to you.

Speaker 1 1:16:27

You've given me more than one black metal album.

Speaker 2 1:16:30

Yes, it was during one of our EPs.

Speaker 1 1:16:33

Oh, venom, I'm kidding Abigail.

Speaker 2 1:16:40

Williams. Yes, I want to give you what I consider one of the best symphonic black metal albums I have ever heard in my entire life and also, I think, is a top tier symphonic black metal album and everyone should listen to it, which is really one. It's a blue album because of course it is Of course. Blue album Supremacy In the Shadow of a Thousand Sons. I just fucking love that name.

Speaker 1 1:17:10

It's such a good title. I believe I know one song off this record. You probably do. I believe it's Into the Ashes.

Speaker 2 1:17:18

So but to me, front to back, this has no faults and I think it ends beautifully Like it starts fantastic. In terms of like, when I say it starts fantastic, I mean the way the album is built. It is built to start strong and end strong Like a story. I don't know if it's a concept album it very well could be but it is a chef's kiss in my opinion, and if you don't like this one, I'm going to be crushed.

Speaker 1 1:17:55

I could have sworn. I knew a song off of that record, but I don't have it liked, which makes me question it. But yeah, no, I've listened to Abigail Williams here and there. I've never listened to a full record other than Legend, which is an EP, not a record, but I've always enjoyed what I've heard from Abigail Williams, so I'm excited to give these guys a full shake.

Speaker 2 1:18:18

Now I will say this if you decide to check out their future stuff, it is different because they go from symphonic black metal to atmospheric black metal Right, and I absolutely love that. This is a band. I would triple dip if you did not check out their atmospheric stuff.

Speaker 1 1:18:39

I got you Okay.

Speaker 2 1:18:40

This is one of the bands that I wanted to do a double album, but then you were like double album.

Speaker 1 1:18:46

I did. We did finally break the stigma. The stigma that's a weird word for it, but we broke the. Every five episodes we do a double album thing.

Speaker 2 1:19:00

I was very sad about it.

Speaker 1 1:19:03

Well, we could always bring it back someday, you want to bring it back now.

Speaker 2 1:19:07

I could give you two Abigail Williams albums. I really want to know, but it's the red.

Speaker 1 1:19:12

We're on episode 31 right now, brother.

Speaker 2 1:19:15

I don't care. We got to make up for lost time, brother.

Speaker 1 1:19:19

No, we're going to. We're just going to stick with one for now.

Speaker 2 1:19:22

Oh fine, you get the red album later if you don't listen to it. But coming, yes, all right. In the shadow of a thousand. What? Why? You mean Nothing, I was just acknowledging what you said. All right, better.

Speaker 1 1:19:43

So yeah, guys, that was another episode of the day.

Speaker 1 1:19:47

And the distorted entertainment. Next episode we're going to go over an Abigail Williams album and an ASAP rock record ASAP rock and block head to be specific. Yeah, if you guys like what you hear, please share us around with your families and friends. It helps us out a great deal. If you would like to contact us about possibly sharing your band at the end of an episode, you can contact us in on Facebook or Twitter or our email address, which will be in the description. Facebook is distant pod. That's D I S T E N T P? O D. Same with Twitter. And yeah, I think that was all of my preamble, a lot less smooth than it usually is, but I think it's not a postamble.

Speaker 1 1:20:30

That's a postamble. You're right, I messed it up. I messed it up royally. I'm a. I'm a fraud. He's a fricking fraud. You're a fraud. Spider-man and other clips from the Amazing Spider-Man 2 featuring Dane Dahan. But yeah, I think that does it for us guys. We will see you guys in the next episode. I am Ethan Karpner and I'm, of course, joined by Mitchell Wade. Bye, bye, see you later.